Brodeur Greatest Ever?
So with Martin Brodeur overtaking Roy in all time wins, the question has been whether Brodeur plays in a great system or is a great goalie.
Well I decided one of the best ways to see what the Devils system does for Goalies is to compare the Mid 90s Devils Goalies (Terreri, Schwab and Dunham) who were all highly rated in their time with the Devils and to see how they did once they left Jersey. Terreri and Schwab were both traded in deals for 2nd round picks. Dunham was the first selection of the Preds in the Expansion draft and was their starter for a few seasons.
One can argue that Terreri and Schwab were backups at best, but teams believed that they could improve their goaltending and were willing to part with a prized second round pick for them. So how do their averages compare between the Devils and other teams?
I’m using Clemmensen as a sort of neutral marker. He didn’t look particullary good when playing for the Devils before this season, so its worth a look to compare him. I ignored Beezer, who was at the end of his career and was a proven goalie. I also ignored Weekes, who wasn’t in the Devils system till this year.
Chris Terreri
Team GP GAA SV% SO
93-94 Devils 44 2.72 .907 2
94-95 Devils 15 2.53 .900 0
95-96 Devils 4 2.57 .902 0
98-99 Devils 12 2.48 .898 1
99-00 Devils 12 3.42 .876 0
00-01 Devils 10 2.78 .874 0
Devils Average 16.1 2.75 .893 .5
Team GP GAA SV% SO
95-96 Sharks 46 3.70 .883 0
96-97 Sharks 22 2.75 .901 0
96-97 BHawks 7 2.66 .901 0
97-98 BHawks 21 2.41 .906 2
00-01 Isles 8 2.44 .912 0
Other Average 20.8 2.79 .906 .4
Corey Schwab
Team GP GAA SV% SO
95-96 Devils 10 2.18 .899 0
02-03 Devils 11 1.47 .933 1
03-04 Devils 3 0.64 .971 1
Devils Average 4.6 1.43 .934 .66
Team GP GAA SV% SO
96-97 TBLight 31 3.04 .897 2
97-98 TBLight 16 2.92 .892 1
98-99 TBLight 40 3.52 .891 0
99-00 Canucks 6 3.57 .861 0
01-02 Leafs 30 2.73 .894 1
Other Average 24.6 3.15 .887 .8
Mike Dunham
Team GP GAA SV% SO
96-97 Devils 26 2.55 .906 2
97-98 Devils 15 2.25 .913 1
Devils Average 20.5 2.40 .909 1.5
Team GP GAA SV% SO
98-99 Preds 44 3.08 .908 1
99-00 Preds 52 2.85 .908 0
00-01 Preds 48 2.28 .923 4
01-02 Preds 58 2.61 .906 3
02-03 Preds 15 3.15 .892 0
02-03 Rangers 43 2.29 .924 5
03-04 Rangers 57 3.03 .896 2
05-06 Thrash 17 2.77 .893 1
06-07 Isles 19 3.74 .889 0
Other Average 44.1 3.23 .904 2
Martin Broduer
Devils Average
Team GP GAA SV% SO
Devils 61.75 2.20 .914 6.3
Scott Clemmensen
Team GP GAA SV% SO
08-09 Devils 40 2.39 .917 2
Schwab, Terreri and Dunham’s Devils stats average
Team GP GAA SV% SO
Devils 13.7 2.19 .912 .88
Their Non Devils stats average
Team GP GAA SV% SO
Other 29.8 3.05 .899 1.06
In Comparison to Broduer while with Devils
Team GP GAA SV% SO
Devils(Backup) 13.7 2.19 .912 .88
Devils(Marty) 61.75 2.20 .914 6.3
In Comparison to Broduer while with Others
Team GP GAA SV% SO
Other 29.8 3.05 .899 1.06
Devils(Marty) 61.75 2.20 .914 6.3
In Comparison to Clemmensen while with Devils
Team GP GAA SV% SO
Devils(Backup) 13.7 2.19 .912 .88
Devils(Clem) 40 2.39 .917 2
In Comparison to Clemmensen while with Others
Team GP GAA SV% SO
Other 29.8 3.05 .899 1.06
Devils(Clem) 40 2.39 .917 2
In whats a somewhat amazing stat info, during their time as backups to Broduer the trio managed almost identical stats to what Broduer has averaged over the years except for shutouts which is due to the disparity of games played. When playing for other teams the same trio managed to drop their GAA by .80 and their SV% by .15.
When compared to Clemmensen when backups with the Devils the trio managed a better GAA by .20 but a slightly lower Sv% by .05. But when compared to the Trio when they weren’t on the Devils, Clemmensen clearly outshines them with a .66 improvement in GAA and a .18 better in Sv%.
Personally I think this shows that the Devils have had one hell of a run with Brodeur, and Brodeur probably fits perfectly in their system. Out of the Trio, the only one that might have worked out for the Devils was Dunham. Of course, Brodeur is still playing and Dunham is currently retired.
It also helps that the Devils knew what they had in Brodeur from the start. His whole career he’s played 60+ games a year (obviously minus this season and the strike shortened season) while Roy didn’t reach 60 games till his sixth season in the league. Despite the two cup wins for Roy with the Canadiens, they weren’t nearly as good of a team when compared to the Devils team Brodeur started with or the Avs team that Roy played with.